The Lincoln Douglas Debates Nominated in by the infant Republican party to oppose Stephen A Douglas Abraham Lincoln challenged the incumbent Democratic senator from Illinois to a series of debates This volume contains thei

  • Title: The Lincoln-Douglas Debates
  • Author: Abraham Lincoln Stephen Arnold Douglas
  • ISBN: 9780486435435
  • Page: 137
  • Format: Paperback
  • Nominated in 1858 by the infant Republican party to oppose Stephen A Douglas, Abraham Lincoln challenged the incumbent Democratic senator from Illinois to a series of debates This volume contains their masterful arguments as well as two speeches, one by each candidate Paving the way for modern debates between political candidates, the Lincoln Douglas debates were tNominated in 1858 by the infant Republican party to oppose Stephen A Douglas, Abraham Lincoln challenged the incumbent Democratic senator from Illinois to a series of debates This volume contains their masterful arguments as well as two speeches, one by each candidate Paving the way for modern debates between political candidates, the Lincoln Douglas debates were than formal discussions between opponents Lincoln lost the election but the speeches brought him to national attention and helped propel him to the Presidency in 1860.

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    1. I've listened to these debates too many times to count on my daily commute, at home, and many other places. If you are a history nerd like me, this is manna from heaven. Listening to David Strathairn as Abraham Lincoln and Richard Dreyfuss as "the little giant" Stephen Douglas, you almost feel transported back to 1858 as these two political giants trade barbs and debate the most monumental issue of the day, slavery. So fascinating, and yes, so much fun!

    2. Any one who had a decent US history teacher had some encounter with the debates that took place between the incumbent Senator from Illinois (Stephen A Douglas - the Little Giant) and the candidate Abraham Lincoln in 1858. They were 7 structured encounters that took place during that election which allowed the first speaker one hour to speak, then the opponent took one and a half hours and then the original speaker took a half hour to rebut. I had never taken the time to read all seven debates - [...]

    3. At some point I decided that reading original documents was the way to go when it came to studying history (Maybe it was when I realized that the David Barton school of thought I'd been brought up in was sketchy. Though, DB always claimed to own and base all of his stuff off of original documents, he just never expected anyone to check up on him I guess, but even before I realized all the problems with DB I still admired the idea of reading originals). I now think reading contemporary commentari [...]

    4. Just wow. I have been familiar with the fact of the Lincoln-Douglas debates for as long as I can remember. In high school, I spent three years participating in the forensic event called “Lincoln-Douglas Debate.” I knew that Lincoln and Douglas argued with each other a lot when they were both running for the Illinois Senate in 1858. But until I read them for myself—as research for a book that I am writing about effective strategies for civil political discourse—I had no idea what a true t [...]

    5. I listened to an audiobook of the entire series of debates as read by Richard Dreyfuss (as Stephen A. Douglas) and David Strathairn as Abraham Lincoln.I won't be able to do justice to the audiobook (recorded in 2008), which I highly recommend to anybody who thinks reading these debates might be a daunting task. But here is a link to David Frum's positive review of the audiobook: thedailybeast/articles And now, I (Fred Wemyss), have this to say about the debates themselves:What strikes me about t [...]

    6. I am very glad I listened to the audio version of the debates, with David Strathairn and Richard Dreyfus performing. If I hadn’t listened to the debates in their entirety, I don’t think I would have really appreciated the masterful jobs both Lincoln and Douglas did with strategizing their arguments. You can see many of the things we see in today’s politics – the kowtowing to political correctness, the name calling (here liar and forger are the bad ones), acting badly to create an impress [...]

    7. Glad I read this before the election this year. Things are different now for sure. Regardless of who you align yourself with, Lincoln or Douglas, one must admit that no one debates like this any more. The way they presented and defended their stance was commendable. Attacking or questioning each other was interesting as well. Neither let the other get by with a less than adequate answer. If politicians would still debate in this format AND the American people actually cared, we would not be stuc [...]

    8. This book is a verbatim transcript of the 14 debates that Abraham Lincoln and Senator Stephen Douglas had during the hot summer and early fall of 1858. Douglas, the Democrat, tries to paint Lincoln as a "Black Republican" abolitionist, while Lincoln denies this but steadfastly holds true to his conviction that slavery must not be extended to the territories, (while conceding that the government cannot alter slavery where it already existed). These debates took place in a country that was on the [...]

    9. Although the issues and ideas were dealt with in much greater depth than one would find in modern political debate, there was still a liberal amount of mudslinging by both men.

    10. I've read pieces of these debates over the years, and I'm glad I finally listened to this - one of the most famous debates in American history! What surprised me is that the ENTIRE debate is about slavery. I thought most of it would be since that was the key issue at the time, but I was surprised it was the ONLY thing debated. The setup was interesting too - one candidate spoke for 60 minutes, the other for 90 then the first candidate for 30. They alternated speaking first.One thing that tripped [...]

    11. Riveting debates. This is not my typical style of literature but I could not stop listening. Tensions are high in this discussion of "state's right to choose" vs "does any state have the right to legislate that which is not moral?" Abraham Lincoln presses for slavery to trod the road that leads to its ultimate extinction while Douglas champion's limiting the federal government's reach (an interesting fact about early Democrat ideology). I wish modern debate took this form and engaged the America [...]

    12. This is the way debates should take place. step back in time, revisit history and the amazing people of the times.

    13. Awesome to see mid-19th Century frontier politicians employ cheap shots*, folksy talk**, sophistries, and insincere expressions of friendship, only in the format of dueling 90-minute long extemporaneous speeches rather than talking points (well, Douglas and Lincoln did have talking points, but theirs included prologue, climax, and denouement), and when rallying voters over the issue of America's darkest sin, two years before the Civil War. In a lot of ways this feels like a modern political conv [...]

    14. What a wonderful discovery.Although this was a file that I got from the LA theatre works (latw/). it is no longer available but I saved the streaming audio.This is such an insight into lincoln that I bought The team of Rivals, and am almost finished with that as well. This production stars David Straithairn as Lincoln, and Paul Giamatti as Stephens. So much of these debates seem relevant to our situation now, and i kept being astonished at the ways that Lincoln and Obama are similar, Both becams [...]

    15. Undoubtedly an indispensable part of our history, and a great insight into the mannerisms and speech of the fiery candidates therein involved. The two might have been battling for a seat in the Senate, but the discussion of slavery overshadows, as a looming giant, the competitive nature of the discourse. (Not a bad thing). The divergent aspects of Lincoln and Douglas are very palpable, even funny at times. It turns out that mid-nineteenth century sass is not totally unlike that which you would f [...]

    16. I did not read this book but listened to it on CD. It was a 14 disc set (16 hours) with the debates complete and unabridged. The BBC produced the recordings. Lincoln was read by David Strathairn, and Douglas was read by Richard Dreyfuss. Dreyfuss is familiar to me from his acting in films such as Mr. Holland's Opus and Close Encounters of the Third Kind. So spot-on (no pun intended) was Dreyfuss's performance here that I did not recognize his voice at all from this production. I only discovered [...]

    17. Interesting, and maddening. I happen to be an Illinois bois and I loved reading Lincoln's speeches here. Eloquence, clarity, conviction, acid. I had read too much about Lincoln and too few of his actual words. Reading Douglas' bored me, however, and irritated me, in that he kept making charges which Lincoln had already convincingly swatted down, and failed to respond on so many other crucial points. He never does come out and say how he views the moral dimension of slavery itself. His words also [...]

    18. We often judge historical figures by today's moral standards, which is a tremendous miscarriage of judgment. Lincoln was very forward-thinking for his time. He abhorred slavery. However, he viewed it as something protected by the Constitution. When he was elected, he had no intention of abolishing slavery; he was not an abolitionist. He would have gladly guaranteed that slavery be protected in perpetuity in the current states where it existed if he could be guaranteed that it would not spread to [...]

    19. I never would have imagined a series of debates for Illinois senator that are over 150 years old would be as completely enthralling as these are. Richard Dreyfuss and David Straithairn do a great reading. I am not a history buff, so I did not know the background of the Lecompton constitution, Nebraska bill, Douglas and Buchanan's conflicted relationship, and the Dred Scott decision. But this didn't keep me from thoroughly enjoying these great debates. In the book's introduction Allen Guelzo made [...]

    20. 7 debates that highlighted 1858 senatorial race. Noble arguments over human bondage and proper roles of government from both men, full text of debates, Douglas use of black republican party, best is 7th, garbled words are meant to allow some point to stand, Douglas dems meant to allow slavery to continue in new territories, Founders intent to leave slavery as found and allow to end, Lincoln advocated Founder policy and Douglas dems attempted to change, dems suggest war may happen and Lincoln ref [...]

    21. This is an audio book. It is very well read by the narrators, one of whom is Richard Dreyfus.This rendition is quite revealing historically. I believe Lincoln came out not quite the hero we thought, and that Stephen Douglas not quite the bad guy as our teachers portrayed him. The difficulty truly is that each man was playing to the audience, and a modern listener is not going to get the nuance of these debates such that we would understand how each man truly felt.But the narration is so good and [...]

    22. This was a very interesting read, but a casual reader would be better served to find a book that tells the story of the debates and uses portions of their words to make the major points. This book is more for someone that is doing research or one who wants to really study the debates. While there are currents that carry forward from debate-to-debate, there is a lot of redundancy which the casual reader might find boring. Having said this, the power of the main arguments over slavery ring loud an [...]

    23. Best quote compliments of Lincoln"My friends, Since Judge Douglas said to you in his conclusion that he had not time in an hour and a half to answer all that I had said in an hour, it follows of course that I will not be able to answer in half an hour all that he said in an hour and a half."Abraham Lincoln to Stephan A Douglas in the 6th debate between the two at Quincy, Illinois, Oct. 15, 1858

    24. A lot of time is spent hashing and re-hashing the issues of the day, and bickering over things that seem down-right trivial today. But the core of the debate is well worth the lulls. Both men make strong arguments. The logic of Douglas�s arguments would find a lot of support today (and do in both the abortion and gay marriage debates). Because of that, Lincoln�s rejoinders are as important now as they were when he fought for abolitionism.

    25. This audio version was quite enjoyable. I learned quite a bit about the issues of the time just by being immersed in the time. I was introduced to such things as "popular sovereignty" and the issue of slavery in a way I never caught in history class. One thing is for sure, politics are politics whatever the era!

    26. More interesting than I expected of a series of political speeches from ~150 years ago. A lot of repetition & rhetoric, amazing how people felt about the slavery issue (which is most of what this encompassed) back then. Don't want to give anything away here, but can't believe Douglas ended up winning this election.

    27. I really wanted to enjoy this book. This version is the complete unedited (or at least as close as possible) version of what both Lincoln and Douglas said. I expected the Gettysburg Address, instead, most of time was taken up attacking the opponent in a manner that modern-day politicians are all-too familiar with.

    28. There is nothing like the fun of reading primary sources.Mr. Lincoln: Ladies and Gentlemen:A Voice: --There are no ladies here.Mr. Lincoln:--You are mistaken about that. There is a fine chance of them back here. [Laughter.]

    29. I wanted to like this. I was a little disappointed when we heard the usual ad hominem. We're human, I guess those arguments will always affect us.

    30. These debates give great insight to the character and intelligence of the debaters. It is nice to come to know President Lincoln, at a time when he was only attempting to be elected as a congressman.

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